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Sad News Orangefatcat's husband died this morning.

by orangefatcat in

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this is one of the sadest days in my life, my beloved husband marco passed away this morning at 5:15 am.. it has been a dreadful day.

but my dear friend was with most of the day while we went togerther to make funeral arrangements.. that was really hard on me.

i have done nothing but cry and cry all day, i finally fell asleep a few hours ago while my friend diane was here and she let me sleep.

Disgusting comment re: education from Tacoma 2007 District Convention

by Justitia Themis in

this is from saturday afternoon program.

the speaker first starts with what he called the "alphabet soup" of degrees....a.a., b.a., m.a., ph.d., etc.

; he said they were nothing more than "sheepskins on the wall.

I will try to find someone with a recording of this talk, but I don't think it will be that valuable. Clearly, this brother added his personal comments. JWs will simply dismiss it as that...another individual brother that went too far.

Justitia

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Coquitlam To Ban "Front Door Pests" But Excludes JWs

by Justitia Themis in

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=ae1d8b8a-8085-421e-bca4-9dc6f11c1e16&k=99813.

coquitlam to ban front-porch pestspushy gas pedlars targeted, but not girl guide cookiescheryl chan, the provincepublished: thursday, july 05, 2007door-to-door salesmen are about to get the bum's rush from coquitlam.. council voted unanimously on tuesday to ban door-to-door sales following complaints about the pushy sales tactics of some natural-gas marketers.. the bylaw when it is introduced in september will exclude charitable causes like girl guide cookie sales, political campaigners and religious organizations such as jehovah's witnesses.. email to a friendprinter friendlyfont: ****"it's only meant to apply to commercial for-profit door-to-door sales," coun.

richard stewart said yesterday.. "unfortunately it means a summer of seeing door-to-door sales of natural gas.. "i believe door-to-door discussions of religion are protected constitutionally.

Justitia Themis

The title should have "Excludes JWs."

Justitia

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Coquitlam To Ban "Front Door Pests" But Excludes JWs

by Justitia Themis in

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=ae1d8b8a-8085-421e-bca4-9dc6f11c1e16&k=99813.

coquitlam to ban front-porch pestspushy gas pedlars targeted, but not girl guide cookiescheryl chan, the provincepublished: thursday, july 05, 2007door-to-door salesmen are about to get the bum's rush from coquitlam.. council voted unanimously on tuesday to ban door-to-door sales following complaints about the pushy sales tactics of some natural-gas marketers.. the bylaw when it is introduced in september will exclude charitable causes like girl guide cookie sales, political campaigners and religious organizations such as jehovah's witnesses.. email to a friendprinter friendlyfont: ****"it's only meant to apply to commercial for-profit door-to-door sales," coun.

richard stewart said yesterday.. "unfortunately it means a summer of seeing door-to-door sales of natural gas.. "i believe door-to-door discussions of religion are protected constitutionally.

Justitia Themis

http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=ae1d8b8a-8085-421e-bca4-9dc6f11c1e16&k=99813

Coquitlam to ban front-porch pests

Pushy gas pedlars targeted, but not Girl Guide cookies

Cheryl Chan, The Province

Published: Thursday, July 05, 2007

Door-to-door salesmen are about to get the bum's rush from Coquitlam.

Council voted unanimously on Tuesday to ban door-to-door sales following complaints about the pushy sales tactics of some natural-gas marketers.

The bylaw when it is introduced in September will exclude charitable causes like Girl Guide cookie sales, political campaigners and religious organizations such as Jehovah's Witnesses.

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"It's only meant to apply to commercial for-profit door-to-door sales," Coun. Richard Stewart said yesterday.

"Unfortunately it means a summer of seeing door-to-door sales of natural gas.

"I believe door-to-door discussions of religion are protected constitutionally. This [bylaw] wouldn't include them."

The bylaw means gas marketers "will have to do other techniques like telemarketing or direct mail to contact the customer," said Rob Pellet of the B.C. Utilities Commission.

The agency has logged more than 600 complaints about aggressive or misleading sales pitches by gas pedlars since May 1, when B.C. opened up the sale of residential gas to private companies.

Complaints have come in from all over B.C.

"A number of customers who talked to these natural-gas marketers believed they were only going to get more information, not a contract," said Pellet.

In other cases, marketers have misrepresented themselves or have promised to save the customer money.

The commission now requires all contracts to be verified by a third party, usually by the company's head office.

Since the new procedure took effect on July 1, complaints have decreased "slightly" but Pellet said he is still "kept very busy."

The Township of Langley requires door-to-door salesmen to have a permit, said Coun. Kim Richter.

No natural-gas marketers have applied for one.

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Disgusting comment re: education from Tacoma 2007 District Convention

by Justitia Themis in

this is from saturday afternoon program.

the speaker first starts with what he called the "alphabet soup" of degrees....a.a., b.a., m.a., ph.d., etc.

; he said they were nothing more than "sheepskins on the wall.

Justitia Themis

His name is brother Lowe; he is serving as C.O. of Washington Circuit # 1. And yes, many others heard the comment, as several in our congregation have been disucussing it. BTW, pronounces his name Low...like it rhymes with cow.

Justitia

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Education Talk from Follow the Christ DC

by FadingAway in

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justitia themis had a topic 'disgusting comment re: education from tacoma 2007 district convention' regarding a talk on education that those pursuing degrees would be d.e.a.d.

unfortunately that stupid comment was not made at the dc i attended, but i am providing the audio to let ones know how far the society is going in discouraging ones from pursuing college by using weak and tired arguments.. http://www.box.net/shared/s523re4c7i.

Justitia Themis

this scare tactic clearly demonstrates that they really don't have great faith in "jehovah" and their kids, to think that they can't go to college and avoid all the negatives of college life. No one's forcing kids to go get drunk every weekend

The "brother" who gave our talk said that 44% of college students binge drink. I did a fact check, and there are some variations between studies, but that number is about right. However, as I posted on a another thread, that still means that 56% of the students are NOT binge drinking. So, JW young people lack the ability to go WITH the crowd and not binge drink? Apparently, we do not think much of our children.

Justitia

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Disgusting comment re: education from Tacoma 2007 District Convention

by Justitia Themis in

this is from saturday afternoon program.

the speaker first starts with what he called the "alphabet soup" of degrees....a.a., b.a., m.a., ph.d., etc.

; he said they were nothing more than "sheepskins on the wall.

Justitia Themis

What is the name of the "Brother" who gave this talk?

I want his name. Seriously, can someone provide it?

Lau, Lowl? Circuit Overseer for Washington Circuit #1.

Anyone know him?

Justitia

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District Convention talk on Education

by Mystery in

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justitia themis began a topic 'disgusting comment re: education from tacoma 2007 district convention' regarding a talk on education.

i would like to hear it, can anyone tell me which day and time it was given?

the convention is in town this weekend (as well as last weekend and next weekend) and i need information on the talk.. i am going to visit my family next week and i want to try to talk to my niece about college.

Justitia Themis

She said she already heard it at her convention in Dekalb, Illinois - so either it was the same speaker or someone who copied off him or it was in the outline.

Unreal! The speaker at our convention is currently serving as a CO for Washington Circuit #1. His last name is Lau, Lowl, or something like that. Perhaps you wife has this info in her notes? Then we could verify if it the same individual.

Regards,

Justitia

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District Convention talk on Education

by Mystery in

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justitia themis began a topic 'disgusting comment re: education from tacoma 2007 district convention' regarding a talk on education.

i would like to hear it, can anyone tell me which day and time it was given?

the convention is in town this weekend (as well as last weekend and next weekend) and i need information on the talk.. i am going to visit my family next week and i want to try to talk to my niece about college.

Justitia Themis

It's a Saturday afternoon talk. I too do not believe this is in the outline. Several other posters have written about assemblies in their areas, and they do not mention this statement.

Regards,

Justitia

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Disgusting comment re: education from Tacoma 2007 District Convention

by Justitia Themis in

this is from saturday afternoon program.

the speaker first starts with what he called the "alphabet soup" of degrees....a.a., b.a., m.a., ph.d., etc.

; he said they were nothing more than "sheepskins on the wall.

Justitia Themis

What was the name of the talk?

The Superiority of Being Taught By Jehovah.

Several times he emphasized that "higher" education is ANYTHING past the 12 years of legally required education. The reasons he outlined for avoiding education were as follows:

1) The high cost; it takes years to pay back the loans.

2) Once you start working, you are expected to devote many hours to your career.

3) You are exposed to corrupting influences and a corrupting environment [as opposed to the morally uplifting influences and environment of the trades.]. He specifically referenced binge drinking and said that "a study" showed that 44% of college students binge drink. I did a fact check, and that is about right. However, that also means that 56%, OR THE MAJORITY of college students, are NOT binge drinking. It is a sad commentary about our youth if we feel them so morally bereft and spineless that they will not be able to go ALONG with the crowd and refrain from binge drinking. If they can not go WITH the crowd for good purposes, what hope do we have that they will go AGAINST the crowd's bad purposes?

Additionally, the percentage of college binge drinkers usually mimicks binge drinking among the general population in any given State. So working or going to school places one in the same alcohol environment.

These reasons were all that were presented, at least all that I have in my notes. Sounds like a pretty weak case to me.

Justitia